cabara01 wrote:@Gbalaka I wasn't saying there won't be structures on 5.0, I just rather not take a full exam ONLY on structures.
cabara01 wrote:crackmonkey, have you already transitioned and taken either of the two 5.0 exams yet? I've noticed that the scheduling for the last four 4.0 exams are minimal in my area. I wonder if it is the same for trying to schedule the 5.0.
crackmonkey wrote:cabara01 wrote:crackmonkey, have you already transitioned and taken either of the two 5.0 exams yet? I've noticed that the scheduling for the last four 4.0 exams are minimal in my area. I wonder if it is the same for trying to schedule the 5.0.
I have transitioned but have not taken any 5.0 exams yet. Signed up for PPD at the end of September. Lots to cover still between now & then.
Raja wrote:crackmonkey wrote:cabara01 wrote:crackmonkey, have you already transitioned and taken either of the two 5.0 exams yet? I've noticed that the scheduling for the last four 4.0 exams are minimal in my area. I wonder if it is the same for trying to schedule the 5.0.
I have transitioned but have not taken any 5.0 exams yet. Signed up for PPD at the end of September. Lots to cover still between now & then.
@crackmonkey did you take any 5.0 yet? How did it go? I am now at that critical junction, just finished the magic triad and need to decide what next.
cabara01 wrote:I'm the "pull the bandaid" person. You should make a decision quickly if you're going to stick with 4.0 because you will still have time to retake an exam if needed. I passed CDS, PPP, SPD, BS, SD but as I feared I just failed SS. BDCS coming up soon. Study for SS and BCDS together, they seem to cross over. I don't think I had enough time to study for SS which was part of my problem and of course life happened. I read both BAR, did the Ballast MC exam questions and watched all the Dilip Khatri videos, but it wasn't enough. I'll have to study much harder for the retake because I'm determined not to take it a third time. Good luck to all, study hard, keep your chin up! WE CAN DO THIS!
vrcat25 wrote:Raja wrote:crackmonkey wrote:cabara01 wrote:crackmonkey, have you already transitioned and taken either of the two 5.0 exams yet? I've noticed that the scheduling for the last four 4.0 exams are minimal in my area. I wonder if it is the same for trying to schedule the 5.0.
I have transitioned but have not taken any 5.0 exams yet. Signed up for PPD at the end of September. Lots to cover still between now & then.
@crackmonkey did you take any 5.0 yet? How did it go? I am now at that critical junction, just finished the magic triad and need to decide what next.
Good luck getting an answer...Some of these people only post a comment or two and disappear or even worse, they fail and use another alias...It's sad, but i think there's many people on here that just don't want to admit failures...I think i warned you already, but "the grass isn't always greener on the other side...the "other side" being 5.0. I failed both PPD and PDD and it's a VERY AMBIGUOUS test....I can see some people might fail those 5 times or more because they are pretty much impossible to study for due to the "best guess" questions....I would say to stick with 4.0 where at least the questions are more technical and answerable. As you said, you don't have to worry about your rolling clock and have another year...why not give 4.0 a shot and take SS, BS and BDCS...Otherwise, PPD is basically all 3 of those plus add the worse questions from PPP, SPD and CDS. 5.0 is a disaster! I wish i could trade you places, but now i'm not allowed to transition back...
cabara01 wrote:I'm the "pull the bandaid" person. You should make a decision quickly if you're going to stick with 4.0 because you will still have time to retake an exam if needed. I passed CDS, PPP, SPD, BS, SD but as I feared I just failed SS. BDCS coming up soon. Study for SS and BCDS together, they seem to cross over. I don't think I had enough time to study for SS which was part of my problem and of course life happened. I read both BAR, did the Ballast MC exam questions and watched all the Dilip Khatri videos, but it wasn't enough. I'll have to study much harder for the retake because I'm determined not to take it a third time. Good luck to all, study hard, keep your chin up! WE CAN DO THIS!
vrcat25 wrote:Thanks RAJA! What have you passed so far? I don't know if i'll pass on the next try since so much of it is luck, but THANKS! I don't plan on quitting....I have 3.5 years left so i can technically retake 10 time! Dear NCARB gods, I hope it doesn't take that long!
On a more serious note, i really think SS, BS and BDCS would be easier because there's far less "best guess" questions...I know i sound like a broker record, but just want to forewarn anybody who hasn't transitioned yet, DON'T! I already know people who have failed 3 times and i won't be surprised to hear if somebody failed 6 or more...Just being realistic. 5.0 STINKS!
198kevin wrote:I really would recommend not listening to Vrcat, he bashes people who pass by saying they just got lucky and blames NCARB for his lack of understanding of test content. These tests aren't impossible and I personally think 5.0 was an improvement and also easier, kinda feel like I could have just taken PDD without studying.
B-Money wrote:I'm a big believer in the 5.0 exams. I did the 3+2 approach and really appreciated the new format. The 5.0 exams were much bigger in terms of content that you need to understand and study which is why a lot of people recommend studying for both PPD and PDD at the same time in a longer study schedule.
With all that said, I would stick with 4.0 as long as I could in your position. You've somewhat answered this question yourself. You're not in a rushed state to transfer over because your first exam expires in 5 years. Take this time before June 2018 to get the rest of the 4.0 exams done. If for some reason you don't get them all done, you may only have to take one 5.0 exam. Why stop a moving train. Keep trucking. Good luck!
Melon Panda wrote:Raja wrote:B-Money wrote:I'm a big believer in the 5.0 exams. I did the 3+2 approach and really appreciated the new format. The 5.0 exams were much bigger in terms of content that you need to understand and study which is why a lot of people recommend studying for both PPD and PDD at the same time in a longer study schedule.
With all that said, I would stick with 4.0 as long as I could in your position. You've somewhat answered this question yourself. You're not in a rushed state to transfer over because your first exam expires in 5 years. Take this time before June 2018 to get the rest of the 4.0 exams done. If for some reason you don't get them all done, you may only have to take one 5.0 exam. Why stop a moving train. Keep trucking. Good luck!
Thanks @B-Money, it's good to hear your experiences with 5.0, sounds realistic. And yeah!! In terms of my own path this idea of keep trucking, don't stop a moving train, makes a LOT of sense. Momentum.
Please help!!!!!
I passed CDS-PPP-SPD and then took SS (three times) and BDCS (one time) recently and failed. I don't think I can pass the remaining exams (BS, BDCS, SS, and SD) by June, 2018. Only the exams which I haven't studied yet are BS and SD.
I have two options that I'm thinking about:
Option-1: Transition NOW and take PPD & PDD.
Option-2: Study & take BS and transition to 5.0 after BS either pass or fail.
I think I need to study BS anyway to take PPD & PDD. Why not study and take BS before transition?
Your comments & advice are appreciated!
FYI: My first exam will expire 06/2020.
Melon Panda wrote:Raja wrote:B-Money wrote:I'm a big believer in the 5.0 exams. I did the 3+2 approach and really appreciated the new format. The 5.0 exams were much bigger in terms of content that you need to understand and study which is why a lot of people recommend studying for both PPD and PDD at the same time in a longer study schedule.
With all that said, I would stick with 4.0 as long as I could in your position. You've somewhat answered this question yourself. You're not in a rushed state to transfer over because your first exam expires in 5 years. Take this time before June 2018 to get the rest of the 4.0 exams done. If for some reason you don't get them all done, you may only have to take one 5.0 exam. Why stop a moving train. Keep trucking. Good luck!
Thanks @B-Money, it's good to hear your experiences with 5.0, sounds realistic. And yeah!! In terms of my own path this idea of keep trucking, don't stop a moving train, makes a LOT of sense. Momentum.
Please help!!!!!
I passed CDS-PPP-SPD and then took SS (three times) and BDCS (one time) recently and failed. I don't think I can pass the remaining exams (BS, BDCS, SS, and SD) by June, 2018. Only the exams which I haven't studied yet are BS and SD.
I have two options that I'm thinking about:
Option-1: Transition NOW and take PPD & PDD.
Option-2: Study & take BS and transition to 5.0 after BS either pass or fail.
I think I need to study BS anyway to take PPD & PDD. Why not study and take BS before transition?
Your comments & advice are appreciated!
FYI: My first exam will expire 06/2020.
vrcat25 wrote:Melon Panda wrote:Raja wrote:B-Money wrote:I'm a big believer in the 5.0 exams. I did the 3+2 approach and really appreciated the new format. The 5.0 exams were much bigger in terms of content that you need to understand and study which is why a lot of people recommend studying for both PPD and PDD at the same time in a longer study schedule.
With all that said, I would stick with 4.0 as long as I could in your position. You've somewhat answered this question yourself. You're not in a rushed state to transfer over because your first exam expires in 5 years. Take this time before June 2018 to get the rest of the 4.0 exams done. If for some reason you don't get them all done, you may only have to take one 5.0 exam. Why stop a moving train. Keep trucking. Good luck!
Thanks @B-Money, it's good to hear your experiences with 5.0, sounds realistic. And yeah!! In terms of my own path this idea of keep trucking, don't stop a moving train, makes a LOT of sense. Momentum.
vrcat25 wrote:If you transition now, you will be basically starting over again
Melon Panda wrote:I'm in panic mode now... LOST!
Coach wrote:Melon Panda wrote:I'm in panic mode now... LOST!
No reason to panic.
Again, you have two choices. Either pass ALL FOUR remaining 4.0 divisions before sunset, or transition and pass PPD and PDD before the rolling clock kills one of your 4.0 courses.
If you transition and don't finish before the rolling clock hits, you'll have to pass 1 or 3 additional divisions depending on which division you lose.
If you chose to continue in 4.0, doing anything but passing all four remaining divisions is pointless.
So, scramble to pass 4 4.0 divisions in the next 7 1/2 months, or pass two 5.0 divisions in the next 2 1/2 years.
Melon Panda wrote:I already got your point. It's a big decision for me. At the same time, I don't want to waste my time sticking with 4.0 til 6/2018 and not finish!
Coach wrote:vrcat25 wrote:If you transition now, you will be basically starting over again
Absolutely untrue.
Coach wrote:Regardless of content, how is it starting over when you can transition with 2/3 of the exam done?
Content is content. Tests are tests. Needing to study goes without saying.
Melon Panda wrote:Coach wrote:Regardless of content, how is it starting over when you can transition with 2/3 of the exam done?
Content is content. Tests are tests. Needing to study goes without saying.
Thank you, both for debating the issues for me.
I’m getting soooo tired just thinking about whether going 4.0 or 5.0. It was my BIG BIG BIG mistake not passing/taking/finishing with 4.0 sooner.
I feel the ARE community around me is moving towards 5.0 now. More people are making study groups for PPD & PDD. (not for 4.0!) and offer classes for new 5.0 exams.
I will put it on hold for a day or so and start correcting the info for PPD & PDD.
But one thing for sure always.......
I WON'T GIVE UP NO MATTER WHAT DECISIONS I MAKE & WHAT CHANGES NCARB MAKE!
......I will become an architect sooner or later.
Thanks!
-Melom
Melon Panda wrote:Coach wrote:Melon Panda wrote:I'm in panic mode now... LOST!
No reason to panic.
Again, you have two choices. Either pass ALL FOUR remaining 4.0 divisions before sunset, or transition and pass PPD and PDD before the rolling clock kills one of your 4.0 courses.
If you transition and don't finish before the rolling clock hits, you'll have to pass 1 or 3 additional divisions depending on which division you lose.
If you chose to continue in 4.0, doing anything but passing all four remaining divisions is pointless.
So, scramble to pass 4 4.0 divisions in the next 7 1/2 months, or pass two 5.0 divisions in the next 2 1/2 years.
Coach,
I already got your point. It's a big decision for me. At the same time, I don't want to waste my time sticking with 4.0 til 6/2018 and not finish!
-Melon
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