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BL First Attempt

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:05 am
by home_alone
Hi Folks,

Please check out my first attempt at BL.

Thank You!


BL 01.JPG



BL 01_1.JPG

Re: BL First Attempt

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:51 am
by Sparky83
Both stairs lack exits to the exterior. MAJOR life safety error at the very least. Also lower level stair doors to circulation do not swing in the direction of egress.
The exterior exit near the east stair is redundant. The stair is supposed to be an exit.
LR's have no access to circulation.
TS is not near MP. Door to door distance matters.

Re: BL First Attempt

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:42 am
by home_alone
Got it thank you very much!

Re: BL First Attempt

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:05 pm
by home_alone
Sparky,

I revised the ground floor per you comments, would you mind taking a look?


BL 01_rev1.jpg


On your comment about the stair doors to corridor. Are you saying they should get mirrored per the mark up in red?

Does "open in the direction of egress" mean hinge side should always be closer to nearest exit with an outswinging door?

Thanks.

Re: BL First Attempt

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:55 pm
by Coach
home_alone wrote:I revised the ground floor per you comments, would you mind taking a look?

MP doors to circulation must swing out.
Move CR door east.
Move main entry north.


On your comment about the stair doors to corridor. Are you saying they should get mirrored per the mark up in red?

No.

Does "open in the direction of egress" mean hinge side should always be closer to nearest exit with an outswinging door?

No. Stairs are supposed to be exits. Doors must swing into stairs from circulation and out to grade.

Re: BL First Attempt

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:11 am
by home_alone
Got it thank you very much Coach.

Re: BL First Attempt

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:21 pm
by stubscook
Sparky83 wrote:Both stairs lack exits to the exterior. MAJOR life safety error at the very least. Also lower level stair doors to circulation do not swing in the direction of egress.
The exterior exit near the east stair is redundant. The stair is supposed to be an exit.
LR's have no access to circulation.
TS is not near MP. Door to door distance matters.


I didn't think that the LR's have to have to have additional access to the circulation, only direct access to the MP.

Re: BL First Attempt

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:43 pm
by Sparky83
stubscook wrote:
Sparky83 wrote:Both stairs lack exits to the exterior. MAJOR life safety error at the very least. Also lower level stair doors to circulation do not swing in the direction of egress.
The exterior exit near the east stair is redundant. The stair is supposed to be an exit.
LR's have no access to circulation.
TS is not near MP. Door to door distance matters.


I didn't think that the LR's have to have to have additional access to the circulation, only direct access to the MP.

From the program:

Exiting Requirements
1. Provide a minimum of two exits from each floor separated
by a travel distance equal to not less than 1/2 of the length
of the maximum overall diagonal dimension of the floor
to be served.
2. Every room shall connect directly to a corridor or
circulation area.

Exception: elevator equipment rooms and rooms
with an area of 50 ft² or less may connect to a
corridor or circulation area through an intervening
space, but not directly to a stair.
3. In rooms required to have two exit doors, separate the
two exit doors by a distance equal to not less than 1/2 of
the length of the maximum overall diagonal dimension of
that room.
u Exit doors may discharge directly to the exterior of the
building at grade.
4. Required exit doors shall swing in the direction of
egress travel.
5. Door swings shall not reduce the minimum clear exit path
to less than 3 ft.

Re: BL First Attempt

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:04 pm
by stubscook
Son of a b#@%&! Thank you, again, Sparky.