smartstone122 wrote:I see. It takes a few times to get used to the cut stair tool and understand it. Glad Coach took the time to show an example…the handrail. Easy to miss elements on the first layer.
caitiemg wrote:smartstone122 wrote:I see. It takes a few times to get used to the cut stair tool and understand it. Glad Coach took the time to show an example…the handrail. Easy to miss elements on the first layer.
Can someone elaborate on this handrail thing- I don't see how it's so enlightening. Is it that it's obstructing the 1st floor door, because that plan is showing the upper level. Sorry to be dense about it.
laurstar wrote:caitiemg wrote:smartstone122 wrote:I see. It takes a few times to get used to the cut stair tool and understand it. Glad Coach took the time to show an example…the handrail. Easy to miss elements on the first layer.
Can someone elaborate on this handrail thing- I don't see how it's so enlightening. Is it that it's obstructing the 1st floor door, because that plan is showing the upper level. Sorry to be dense about it.
yes. coach is basically saying that if you rely on showing the stair on only the 2nd level, you may miss that there is a door on the mezzanine level. i think he is doing it to advise the naysayers that using the cut stair tool in every situation is a good strategy
kgc1980 wrote:My question is: what happens if the entire stair is drawn on the lower plan?
You fail.
Do we NEED to use the cut tool?
If there is no overlap, you don't need to, but I recommend that you do.
And is drawing the entire solution on either the lower floor or upper floor acceptable?
If you show the entire solution on one level it must be the upper level.
I don't want to over complicate my solutions if its not needed.
jlafreniere wrote:Coach, you have the landings in this larger than the stair width, is this necessary?
AREwedoneyet? wrote:Just to clarify, whenever I did these, I would always try to find anyway to not use the cut tool if I didn't have to.
And what if it's not possible? How much time are you willing to waste?
Could someone explain why Coach is advocating for its use all the time?
tip68 wrote:I have the same question, can the handrail encroach on the required 12" clearance for the mezzanine door. If not, would offsetting the stairs from the wall a ways help this situation?
bksimp wrote:Question, can handrails encroach into the door clearances 4". I'm specifically speaking of the NCARB 4.0 door at the 1'-9" landing. Can the last railing against the west wall encroach into the 12 push side of the janitors door clearance?
AREwedoneyet? wrote:I also have a question about the cut stair tool response from Coach. I am taking this test in a week (2nd time). The first time I took it, I passed all the vignettes and I certainly did not draw everything on the second level, nor did I use the cut tool. I did exactly as the youtube video instructed and in that video he does everything on the first level. According to NCARB, that is a MAJOR error. Their instructions are very clear on this subject. Could someone please explain if something has changed in the grading or why these two things might result in a fail? I understand the careless mistake of running a railing through a door, etc...
I just want to clear this up before I test...
Thanks!
AREwedoneyet? wrote:Coach and others,
I found the info needed for that question. It says in the NCARB handout that "because the design of the stairs for this particular solution does not obscure other portions of the stair, all necessary information can be created and displayed on the second floor plan. It is not necessary to utilize the "cut stair" tool." Just to clarify, whenever I did these, I would always try to find anyway to not use the cut tool if I didn't have to. Could someone explain why Coach is advocating for its use all the time? I don't want to seem like I am beating a dead horse here, but I am still not clear on the reasons why...
Thanks,
Coach wrote:
Here's one classic example.
alenb wrote:Where is your image solution for the cut stair, (I can't see one there is an X)
aking06 wrote:Does NCARB explain anywhere how this function works?
Coach wrote:aking06 wrote:Does NCARB explain anywhere how this function works?
It's basic drafting. Unfortunately, they teach it to you guys anymore.
Coach wrote:Yes. Revit sucks.
Iasonas wrote:Is it correct to have railing continue around landings
Iasonas wrote:Coach wrote:Yes. Revit sucks.
I llluuuuvvvv this comment Coach. I think that Revit sucks but we have to use it sometimes.
Now on this vignette example that you posted, the railing goes all around. Is it correct to have railing continue around landings (I know it is not when we have a door of course). But if it is just a landing turning a corner, do we have to have a railing continue? I was cutting my railings one foot beyond the nosing.
tekkenlee wrote:this youtube video is by ncarb, it explain the cut stair tool really well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf1LWjrMZUg
tinadatabase wrote:tekkenlee wrote:this youtube video is by ncarb, it explain the cut stair tool really well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf1LWjrMZUg
It's been a while since I've seen this video. This is a good one, it even walks you through what to do with the handrails at the cut lines. Thanks!
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