Raise after license?

Raise after license?

Postby ekelsey15 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:59 pm

Alright. I've always heard to expect a raise after getting registered but I've recently talked to a few people who say otherwise. One said nothing the other said not nearly what he thought. But that I might suggest a bonus for reaching such a milestone.

I'm in a small firm about 14 people total, 6 practicing partners 4 of which are registered, two additional architects in the state we practice in. I will be licensed in a different jurisdiction for a few years until I can get the BEA. But I've been told in my firm being licensed it may benefit the firm a little since there are so few architects and I believe it'll allow me to "run" another project. I may be mistaken on that.

According to the AIA tool that was in a different thread it should get about 5k. Thoughts?

Also sorry if this has been talked about before. I can't get the search thing to work correctly.
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby Coach » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:03 pm

Architects are notoriously shitty employers. The only way to get what you're worth is to move on. And when you interview, never tell anyone what you currently make.
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby ekelsey15 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:17 pm

Not to doubt what you're saying but I have been given 5 raises over 4 years with 2 bonuses each year and other incentives. I must have gotten lucky and found a gem..
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby corbismyhomeboy » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:26 pm

When I talked to the partner of my firm about getting my license, he basically told me to expect no changes in my salary. Licensure affects nothing except you're more responsible for the project when things go wrong. (To be fair, my firm has stopped giving raises about 2 years ago; instead you get hefty bonuses when business is up and get to keep your job when things are slow.)
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby vrcat25 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:35 pm

It really just depends where you work and how much they value you. I work at a much smaller firm than you do, but I get a raise annually AND after passing each test. I also get the test paid for along with study material. I'm pretty sure that after i get licensed, I will get a raise and possibly offered part ownership in the company. If they don't value you, I'd find somebody who does, especially since you will have leverage after getting licensed.
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby ekelsey15 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:38 pm

I feel they value me. I don't think I will be offered partner status yet. But things have been hinted at that one or two partners will be retiring and new openings. That I should get my license asap..
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby chrisschumm » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:08 am

I think i overhead someone say 15-20% increase at our firm... but who knows.. With my experience with jumping around jobs here in Cali - Coach has the best advise
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby Huberman » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:36 am

I recently got my license, boss wanted to take me out to" talk about what I want to do with the rest of my life" He's getting older and retirement is somewhere in the horizon. We talked about where the firm was headed and how it could grow. I am the next young guy in line to potentially take over. (I'm 29 and graduation 2 years ago) any way I got a 25k raise and possibility of becoming an associate. So depends where you work and they value you.
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby gbalaka » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:36 am

Huberman wrote:I recently got my license, boss wanted to take me out to" talk about what I want to do with the rest of my life" He's getting older and retirement is somewhere in the horizon. We talked about where the firm was headed and how it could grow. I am the next young guy in line to potentially take over. (I'm 29 and graduation 2 years ago) any way I got a 25k raise and possibility of becoming an associate. So depends where you work and they value you.


Wow dude...you have it made! Good for you. You're one of the lucky ones.

I personally work for a very large company that only has 1 architect and we don't even primarily do architecture and the architect is in his 70's. My personal goal is to take over his position once he retires.
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby ekelsey15 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:43 am

I personally work for a very large company that only has 1 architect and we don't even primarily do architecture and the architect is in his 70's. My personal goal is to take over his position once he retires.


Stage a coup?
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby gbalaka » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:52 am

ekelsey15 wrote:
I personally work for a very large company that only has 1 architect and we don't even primarily do architecture and the architect is in his 70's. My personal goal is to take over his position once he retires.


Stage a coup?


Hahaha....you see how it worked out for Turkey....
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby are15 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:55 pm

You won't know unless you ask.

At my firm it wasn't "standard." However, I asked, made my case, and I received.
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby cafefille » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:20 am

I'll weigh in because I'm one of the unlucky ones. I am 27. Three years out of grad school, specialized in healthcare, was with my current firm for 2 years. Got licensed and asked for a $9K raise to bring me up to what the AIA salary calculator for my area says.

They gave me $2k raise because it's their "firm standard."

I get it, I'm young, but that is kind of BS. We have unlicensed designers here who will never be licensed, and I worked my ass off to get through these tests. I'm up and leaving this month and finding a firm that values me.
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby gbalaka » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:18 am

cafefille wrote:I'll weigh in because I'm one of the unlucky ones. I am 27. Three years out of grad school, specialized in healthcare, was with my current firm for 2 years. Got licensed and asked for a $9K raise to bring me up to what the AIA salary calculator for my area says.

They gave me $2k raise because it's their "firm standard."

I get it, I'm young, but that is kind of BS. We have unlicensed designers here who will never be licensed, and I worked my ass off to get through these tests. I'm up and leaving this month and finding a firm that values me.


I agree with you 100%. You need to go work in a place where you are valued more and will make more $$$. I was "stuck" in a similar place for 6 years when i got out of college. Leaving that place was the best decision i ever made!

And when you apply for a new job and they ask you how much you used to make - you bump that number way up!
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby corbismyhomeboy » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:17 am

Has anyone else's firm switched to the 'bonuses only' model? Where they bump everyone's salary up to a certain level, then you get bonuses every year based on the performance of the firm? It's sounding like I'm in the minority here... :?
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby ekelsey15 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:21 am

Has anyone else's firm switched to the 'bonuses only' model? Where they bump everyone's salary up to a certain level, then you get bonuses every year based on the performance of the firm? It's sounding like I'm in the minority here... :?


Bonuses in lieu of what?

We typically get 2 bonuses a year depending on the firms performance, but we have also gotten raises. Are you saying your hourly is maxed and you may or may not get a bonus?
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby corbismyhomeboy » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:27 am

ekelsey15 wrote:Bonuses in lieu of what?

We typically get 2 bonuses a year depending on the firms performance, but we have also gotten raises. Are you saying your hourly is maxed and you may or may not get a bonus?


Bonuses in lieu of raises. Yeah, my salary is what it is - and it's pretty far from the AIA standard - but certain years there are 20k+ in bonuses and some years you get none. It just depends on how we are doing. We do a lot of government work, so with the new guy in office, the reins have been tightened on government spending, therefore less work for us. Even private owners, many of them depend on grants or government money, are scared about the economy and spending less. It's hard to complain about no raise when you get that 20k extra, but on years when you don't...
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby ekelsey15 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:31 am

Are you hourly or salary?
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby corbismyhomeboy » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:36 am

Salary.

Didn't mean to hi-jack the thread... !
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby ekelsey15 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:40 am

No you're fine. Thats interesting. I'm not that far yet so I have no idea. I believe the only people in our office that are salary are the partners, and they take bonuses at the end of the year too..
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby corbismyhomeboy » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:44 am

Everyone is salaried in my office. It makes it easier to do overnight site visits, and to accommodate everyone's schedules. I think when they give out bonuses, everyone gets a bonus, not just top members, etc., Our office is too small for that (20-25 ppl) - people would find out and get pissed.
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby ekelsey15 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:51 am

Yeah. We are pretty small but do a good amount of work so it's pretty similar.
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby gbalaka » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:52 am

corbismyhomeboy wrote:
ekelsey15 wrote:Bonuses in lieu of what?

We typically get 2 bonuses a year depending on the firms performance, but we have also gotten raises. Are you saying your hourly is maxed and you may or may not get a bonus?


Bonuses in lieu of raises. Yeah, my salary is what it is - and it's pretty far from the AIA standard - but certain years there are 20k+ in bonuses and some years you get none. It just depends on how we are doing. We do a lot of government work, so with the new guy in office, the reins have been tightened on government spending, therefore less work for us. Even private owners, many of them depend on grants or government money, are scared about the economy and spending less. It's hard to complain about no raise when you get that 20k extra, but on years when you don't...


20K bonus??? Wow, i'm in the wrong office......
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Re: Raise after license?

Postby nickedemus » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:41 am

corbismyhomeboy wrote:Has anyone else's firm switched to the 'bonuses only' model? Where they bump everyone's salary up to a certain level, then you get bonuses every year based on the performance of the firm? It's sounding like I'm in the minority here... :?


How is that? I considered a job like that a couple of years ago. It was quite a successful firm. I did contract work for the owner for years and watched the place practically explode. It was an appealing offer, even though I wasn't too fond of that bonus thing. I ended up staying here, at my current job, because of the diversity of discipline and expertise in the group that I now work for.

To get back to the topic, I believe it's pretty typical to get a raise upon licensure here. Just not sure what it is yet....
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