Transitioning and the Rolling Clock

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Transitioning and the Rolling Clock

Postby Coach » Thu May 11, 2017 4:52 pm

Remember that your rolling clock DOES NOT reset when you transition, so if you're looking to take fewer exams, you need to know the full picture of what you're getting into.

Scenario 1 - Transition with SPD, PPP and CDS
If you lose:
CDS, you will have to pass 5 more exams!
PPP, 5 more.
SPD, 3 more.

Scenario 2 - Transition with PPP and CDS
If you lose:
CDS, you will have to pass all six 5.0 exams!
PPP, 5 more.

Plan accordingly.
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Re: Transitioning and the Rolling Clock

Postby Coach » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:41 pm

"Your rolling clock transitions with you. This means your 4.0 divisions will keep their expiration dates in 5.0."

https://www.ncarb.org/pass-are/are4/transition
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Re: Transitioning and the Rolling Clock

Postby techtonix » Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:34 am

As I understand their calculator:

if Structural Systems 4.0 is the ONLY and LAST test you have to pass...
The ARE 5.0 equivalent tests you would have to pass are:

1)Project Planning & Design
2)Project Development & Documentation

Use their calculator here: https://arecalc.ncarb.org/
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Re: Transitioning and the Rolling Clock

Postby 2435takeare » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:12 am

Choices below what is the best strategy option?

Option 1: take 3+2 ARE 4.0 & 5.0 Method
Take: Construction Document and Services, Programming Planning & Practice, Site Planning & Design in version 4.0, then after June 30, 2018 take Project Planning & Design, Project Development & Documentation.

Option 2: take 2+3 ARE 4.0 & 5.0 Method
Take Construction Document and Services, Programming Planning & Practice in version 4.0, then after June 30, 2018 take the Programming Analysis, Project Planning & Design, Project Development & Documentation.
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Re: Transitioning and the Rolling Clock

Postby Coach » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:26 pm

2435takeare wrote:Choices below what is the best strategy option?

It depends on what you've taken and your rolling clock.

Option 1: take 3+2 ARE 4.0 & 5.0 Method
Take: Construction Document and Services, Programming Planning & Practice, Site Planning & Design in version 4.0, then after June 30, 2018 take Project Planning & Design, Project Development & Documentation.

Option 2: take 2+3 ARE 4.0 & 5.0 Method
Take Construction Document and Services, Programming Planning & Practice in version 4.0, then after June 30, 2018 take the Programming Analysis, Project Planning & Design, Project Development & Documentation.

You don't have to wait for June 30th. You can transition whenever you want to.
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Re: Transitioning and the Rolling Clock

Postby melliemoe » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:45 pm

Why is my life so complicated hahaha
I have only 3 exams left in 4.0 - Structural Systems, Building Systems and Site Planning.
I have been having some health issues since 2014 and also started my family so have not been able to be as focused on getting these exams out of the way.
My rolling clock takes effect June 3, 2018 and I will lose CPD and PPP and then schematic design in December 2018.
Why not just take the 5.0 Project planning and design exam and be done? It seems that exam gives credits in all the remaining 4.0 exams for me. So complicated. Should I just call NCARB? Anyone know if the transition works that way?
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Re: Transitioning and the Rolling Clock

Postby Coach » Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:51 pm

melliemoe wrote:Why is my life so complicated hahaha
I have only 3 exams left in 4.0 - Structural Systems, Building Systems and Site Planning.
I have been having some health issues since 2014 and also started my family so have not been able to be as focused on getting these exams out of the way.
My rolling clock takes effect June 3, 2018 and I will lose CPD and PPP and then schematic design in December 2018.
Why not just take the 5.0 Project planning and design exam and be done? It seems that exam gives credits in all the remaining 4.0 exams for me. So complicated. Should I just call NCARB? Anyone know if the transition works that way?

CPD? I'll assume you must mean CDS.

I don't know what you're looking at but you're way off base.

As it stands, if you transition now you would have to pass PA, PPD, and PDD before 6/3/18.
If you don't transition, you'll have to pass SS, BS, and SPD before 6/3/18.

If neither of those happen, you're looking at needing all of 5.0.

With that in mind, I would transition ASAP and get cracking.
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Re: Transitioning and the Rolling Clock

Postby BnyBen » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:48 am

FYI, my 4.0 BDCS exam (i.e. my rolling clock) was going to expire on 11/10/2019 but after I transitioned my new rolling clock expires on 6/6/2021.

I plan to finish before my 4.0 clock expires anyway but this seems to contradict what this thread is saying.

Leave it to NCARB to make this as confusing as possible. Remember that many if not all states have their own requirement to finish within 5 years either way.

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